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the artist formerly known as oneangrykate ([personal profile] riseupwithfists) wrote2009-11-19 10:55 pm
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I've been thinking on this all week

Does anyone know of a Western world-based source text where all or almost all of the character deaths or departures are the straight white men? In texts where the character pool is significantly more varied than just straight white men, obviously.

Does such a source text even fucking exist? And I'm not trying to sound snide or trolly, I just honestly don't know, though I have my suspicions.

Tonight I tried to keep my story from becoming a full on musical because that's a bit hard to make work in the written word, and I watched Community for the first time. It was cute!
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[personal profile] gloss 2009-11-20 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
I cannot think of such a source. UGH.

Yay, Community! I only caught the last ten minutes, but dear god I love Abed & Troy. <3
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[personal profile] gloss 2009-11-20 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
*nod nod* It's been quite the week, huh?

It's weird; I'm not really reading DC comics any more because they're *bad* and because they're wrongheaded.

Yay ABED! Also, Shirley is for the win. <333
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[personal profile] gloss 2009-11-20 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I share your justification, pretty much. I don't know what's wrong with me and comics lately, except that my expectations are way disproportionate to the content.

SWGWS is pretty funny, so that helps big time. He's not the usual meta-sitcom white guy who's ~vulnerable~ and ~pining~; he's basically a jerk with wisecracks, and that I can deal with. He is, however, no Abed. ABED IS THE BEST.
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[personal profile] glitterandlube 2009-11-20 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Never mind, I looked it up.
Edited 2009-11-20 18:17 (UTC)
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[personal profile] eisen 2009-11-20 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
I ... may be attempting to write one, actually. I'll let you know when someone dies.

I know I've never read such a thing before, though.
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[personal profile] eisen 2009-11-20 04:32 am (UTC)(link)

Euurrrrgh but White Dudes Can Save Everybody, don't you know? :(
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[personal profile] msilverstar 2009-11-20 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
Not a lot before the 1970s, wow, hard to even think of any. I feel like even George Sand and Jane Austen are hugely relationship-focused.

Maybe some ensemble pieces, like Mary McCarthy's "The Group" but I don't remember it very well. Maybe Lillian Hellman. Virginia Woolf, A Room of One's Own.

Maybe Laura Ingalls Wilder. Anne of Green Gables.

Tillie Olsen, "Tell Me a Riddle"

in the 70s, Marge Piercy wrote a multi-character book about World War II, where I learned a lot more about the Pacific war than I had known before. It was both men and women, but, by the nature of the book, more of the men died.

Marilyn French, "The Women's Room".

Erica Jong tried, but she was pretty male-focused.

Vonda McIntyre, early feminist SF author. Also Johanna Russ.

"Memoirs of an Ex-Prom Queen"

Tamora Pierce, YA Fantasy books, published in the early 80s, great stuff.

While trying to remind myself, I hit this Bibliography of Early Women Writers. It's got everyone from Hildegard of Bingen to Margaret Mead.
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[personal profile] glitterandlube 2009-11-20 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I doubt it exists. For all the whining [by retarded writers who suck at their jobs anyway dudes] about how white men are are not welcome in Hollywood - something like 95% or higher are white men and they aren't going to start tossing their beloveds out the window any time soon.

I'd have to sit down and make a list of character deaths in DC to see percentages and I can't do that at work right now. :|

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[personal profile] glitterandlube 2009-11-20 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll do it for DC when I get home if you really want to know. I'm sure scans_daily would help me if I have problems finding obscure stuff.

I would have to count manner of death as well - not just glorious resurrections, but meaningful deaths as well.

This could be interesting.